That's what I'm saying all the time and what I didn't like because I was not selling models for 3d printing and reason why I left. Doing the same at Turbosquid feels as dreadful as applying for a driver's license. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. I make very nice sale here, and several each month, not as much as TurboSquid, but with 85% royalties I'm not complaining. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment They customize those figures anyway you want. I wont be using TurboSquid due to their royalty system and the fact that I would have to hunt down non-existing forms to prove I am not an American resident and thus avoid paying 30% govt. I am hoping that never happens Exnihilum! Some people mistaken de renders for real items already, can imagine how that would be on Ebay or amazon. "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". There are tons of things better here on CGtrader, most notably we get served very well for extremely low cost. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. Why is CGTrader better? I will very much want to peruse. How about all products here have no restriction Google search.etc. It would be mess. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. . stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g. I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. A serious problem indeed about Turbosquid is its policy of setting up barriers to avoid having a direct link to customers (this includes banning of al communication technologies). CGtrader better is : Design,User friendly,royalties etc all better . I think these are questions that every 3D content creators must honestly answer for themselves. That is why I like to use Apple as the example of preference. but outside of the fact cgtrader is 95% designers and 5% customers its way better and easier to use more professional looking and feeling. So many more buyers would actually have a look at what they have because sometimes you want to buy a special toy For small buyers this is likely the case, but serious corporate buyers may have other priorities atop of lowest price. We had the experience of a 3d modeling agents (UKW) stealing our models before and stopped selling with them, from there on we put a small signature on each model. We all witness how bad it is for healthy competition and progress. There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. In this case a collaborative action could be established to make the product more attractive. Maybe they think Ts provides almost same model but its just better, etc. Reputation for promptly fixing problems? Here is a quick test that can help understand why there aren't so many buyers. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects If any of you think this is a show of strength from Matt Wisdom and his Corporate brother Andy, think twice. Such an arrogant attitude. I remember fighting them at length to try to put my brand name withing the model description or my website link and eventually lost the battle. I hope to find same courage someday ;-) I ended up terminating my account, seeing as I couldn't operate the store under such conditions - not only did I risk having the work I'd put in uploading items undone at any moment, I also had no idea what pitfalls I had to avoid to not have items taken down. I think the TS percentage is pretty much an outrage considering the low price of the products being sold. Hi from Will and Mr Data :) :] It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. because CGTrader team quickly investigate and decided to remove the bad Feeback. Then came price guarantee on Ts and now I had a problem, the part I was now successfully serving on CGt I would not want to risk losing back to Ts, nor would I want to lose those few that kept buying my higher priced models there. But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. personally CGTrader is the second site where I realize more sales, I think we should avoid generalizing his own experience. 3D is great for creating things that can restore old products. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. NoneCG will be up for it. I'll ask my friend to get in touch with you for the unsolved support, as I think it is him who has to do that - not me. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. While i've heard that TS support isn't that great in practice and they always tend to exploit sellers, but impression that they're making on buyers must be really good. I was ,,Diamond ,, since 2008, they stole items and they never gave me the money . etc In fact, any properly textured model over 5000 polys for less than 15 bucks is NOT okay, and does NOT look professional at all. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. Ts went head on and contacted me (I was probably among list of targeted folks at that time, Ts previously also contacted me to make some shady deals which I rejected), now they requested me to lower my prices according to new price grantee model. Check out our picks of the best sites to download free 3D models for 3D printing, games & animation, graphic design, architecture, and more. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. Hopefully we can find a way that would plrase all sides. While there is some sellers that naively think they can rely on Turbosquid's good will to improve their situation in the future, the rest of us should be start working together towards a collective benefit. its hard to run such a business so i hope cgtrader will survive in the future. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. My initial stance on this was, ok fine then my Ts account can stay up for those few that seemingly do not know anything ells outside of Ts. Been over 17 years with TS. They often would ask me to just send them a model through email and pay me through paypal like in the old days. and resurrect it without that 3dprinting nonsense. Thanks for sharing Your experience and thoughts. Very soon there will be robots that can scan objects faster than any modeler can model them and then reproduce a print almost instantly in 10 to 30 years 3D jobs will be irrelevant but until then someone needs to really bring CGtrader to the big markets. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. I started uploading on a few sites and TS was one of them and I can tell you now that that place is a mess. So that is why sites like Amazon are making a fortune. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. Every market needs time, every business needs it. Thank you again! My current store on CGTrader includes numerous items that were deemed to be infringing upon GW IP (link below). For me CGTrader is the best and CGTrader has the best structure of a 3d site !!! A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. The basic approach would be that every user start with a selection of a store template (including own label option and menu creation capability's) and starts filling his store with own products and products found in the large collective database. Turbosquid is the exact opposite. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. The Ts model does not support such thing and is not up to the task of modern time needs for this industry. Sure you get a lot more income from The3Dstudio. Free 3D Models Download: The Best Sites for 2023 | All3DP A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. This use is prohibited if the virtual world-type is an open MMO, like Second Life. But this is perhaps the only plus turbosquid. I'm not sure about your analysis. I think CGT should begin doing the same and promoting people for being exclusive to CGT after all that will help buyer confidence when they realize how many of their best artists are switching sides! Payment Method Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Hey there, I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. I do feel cg trader gives the artists a better price and the share is fair . I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. We made this limitation to protect our designers from leechers who download hundreds of free models and then try to monetize them in some other way. i think they both have there place . AFAIK buyers right to be refunded is protected by law. I doubt the owner will say no to a hefty clump sum, no questions asked, in exchange for site keys and source. On Ts we get served for extreme large cost and rather badly frankly said. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. Another thing that makes CGT better than TS is the friendships that one is able to make within the artist community. Please let us know if you have any feedback. Best of luck to cg trader, they have a great business model and site, it is just going to be incredibly difficult to take any of the market share from such a well established company. What insane kind of practice is that, who owns the work then? Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. Don't forget those young people are going to shape the future of this market and if we want to have a flourishing market then we need lots of well trained people in it. This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. CG Trader is easier to navigate, more stimulating perhaps than turbo squid. And CG Trader offers up to 94% royalty rate, where as Turbo Squid gives I believe 60% royalty rate CG Trader more open than Turbo Squid, and when registering, requires less personal information. Thingiverse has allowed licenses to be transferred into another users name, which is very important option if you want to invent something and sell the ownership, else your stuck with it forever. For me is more offending that kids are able to sell models here. They bring answers to your problems or requests quite fast and in a very convivial way. My opinions have evoluted over the months. Change Method. I agree structural arrangements need to be done to support this bud it needs to be done in a way so it supports the main axiom of openness. On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. Most of the Ts artists also moved their work over here and almost everyone knows that, just not the ones hoe are exclusive, it's not going to take too long now before they systematically start breaking the exclusive contract when they see sales going down every month and things going up over here. in the name of freedom expression of the buyer (???). They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. I left all but . I really enjoy the chance to get to know other people's opinions and experiences regarding how they sell, network and do business and that is something I have only been able to do here on CGT. There is other sellers that don't have any problem doing the same: If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. It is also my favorite 3D site but some things need to be fixed before they can overtake some of the other sites. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. So what I did was simply adding the 60% cut to the product on Ts. Turbosquid has too many models Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. Most small or midsized companies I worked with, did their best to cap their scene polygons at no more 500,000 all models included. BUT this is still not as infuriating as a personal account falling once a month with all the statistics! We initially did the 3D printing focused homepage after noticing that CG customers skip the homepage and come directly to product page, mostly knowing exactly what they need for their projects, while 3D printing customers need more direction and inspiration, so that even non-professionals can discover this new industry. It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. Of course Matt Wisdom was disoriented and he was associated with Pixel SQUID bankruptcy. i like the points system on cg trader . Now if this individual was for real I would have loved to contact him and ask If he would like to give me that converted file in exchange for every dollar he paid for the model. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. If you have any questions about these. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. But they must realise that attracting more buyers only through more aggresive marketing is not enough. That is where the true value of 3D is today but unless someone can show the masses that this kind of thing can be done at a reasonable price ,(based on market value), then 3D will continue to be a half dead market until it will die completely because robotics have reached an advanced stage where they will soon be able to replace artists. And it offers a more strategic dimension. Dear Kanga you are absolutely right and on top of that you won't have to worry about their super buggy uploading system either. They did so by making products that looked so much cooler than PCs and people were fooled and then eventually they made so much money that then they kept putting back into the product and eventually came out with the Ipad which even all Apple haters love. video services, 3D viewers, social media , crowd funding platforms, etc.) https://www.fiverr.com/pixel512/create-a-3d-model-shipping-container After 60 days, we will put your content back online. See this GFXHub where you needed to pay a fee before you could download 3d models of Humster3d, Turbosquid and many other. My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. Female Escorts in Mumbai, [link:http://www.google.com]your link text[/link] Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. Just my opinion, but look at homepage. CGtrader is just better in all possible ways. Of course if you are buying models for the next Transformers movie the poly count won't matter that much because those models may be 500,000 each and you have almost unlimited resources to run those. Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model 3D - TurboSquid 2034950 Advertising? Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. Highend 3D - Character Rigs In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. Change Method. After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. It's true. I am new starter here. Same for me, here. Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. Payment Method - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. For example, I ran into this this morning. I will leave the items here to see if cg trader does manage to change things around over the next 12 months and if not will simply sell them on turbosquid. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. this issue frequently occurs when a seller wants to break a competitor. If CGT wants to play big and attract high quality traffic and designers/buyers, it has to invite the sellers to opt for a more mature approach in my humble opinion. I'd rather look into ways to create my own site, cause it's a bit tedious to sift through neverending site rules from neverending projects. A possible solution for potential buyers looking to sample the work of sellers, would be for sellers to have their free sample models at a low minimal price instead of free. 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