Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests - AP NEWS They used to roam the entire continent, but have become extinct in most US states. I think as Pat was saying you know 35 to 50 pounds on a male be reasonable range whereas mountain lions you're up to 100 110 maybe even 130 pounds on a big male. Is this kind of a typical story. Well let's talk a little bit about that. Think you've seen a mountain lion? Peter Biello: Ok. Peter Biello: Well yeah. So before we get to the the the the stories of sightings we're getting a lot of calls. But you've done some reporting on this. Seems reasonable! Peter Biello: Hmm. Something along those lines. And you know it's rather interesting because certainly there are those you as a case of mistaken identity or they wanted to see something that perhaps they actually didn't. The brother and sister big cats have lived . Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. And there's there's no evidence of that cat's movement in that entire you know 12 hundred miles stretch of its journey. 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. New Hampshire Fish and Game Department says there's no proof. WMUR NH Chronicle Mountain Lions in NH Part I and Part II. Mountain Lion Population (In Each U.S. State) - Wildlife Informer And I was probably about a half a mile from downtown all village on the right. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. All of that remains unanswered but it is an extremely interesting question. Mark Elbroch doesnt think so. So one thing I'll add we're talking about natural dispensers but talking with the conservation officer in the 1980s they recall going to a residence telling a person you can live here but your mountain lion can't. He shifted gears in 2016 and began producing Outside/In, a podcast and radio show about the natural world and how we use it. His work has won him several awards, including two regional Edward R. Murrow awards, one national Murrow, and the Overseas Press Club of America's award for best environmental reporting in any medium. Peter Biello: We at this e-mailed comment from Michael. Sam Evans-Brown: And second the evidence required is is you know pretty pretty tough to gather. There's a lot of photographs that you can see that it's very clearly a tabby cat that someone has thought was a mountain lion. But my experience was that the majority of these accounts could not be taken lightly. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in. I just want to tell you a story that I read. There was no sign of it. 44-N Links. For over 38 years the Saddleback Mountain Lions have offered people a chance to give back to their community. Less successful males roam further. Maps of Trapping Take by Town 1994 to 2004. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. This is where things start breaking down when you so I get pictures with this great description and one of my favorite stories is a great description what the witness and then so I called the witness and wanted information from them and the person says What are you talking about. Caller: Yeah I hadn't experienced blastoff fall so this was around September and I was driving from Webster into Concord on Horse Hill Road and anybody in the area would know I was right near the Red Barn and all of a sudden this animal jumps out of the woods and it bounded across the road in about two two giant leaps and stopped in the field just on the other side. Listeners we'd love to hear some of your thoughts on this. This is not the same as saying that there has never been a mountain lion seen in New Hampshire. Have you seen one. We'll be right back. Give today. Theres tracks everywhere. Mountain lions can be found throughout Arizona, and data suggests the populations are not only stable, but growing. "Of those three to five reports,. I would say that there's going to be the truth in here somewhere. Are there other powers that be worried that scary mountain lions will scare off people from camping in New Hampshire. Rick van de Poll: Oh yeah absolutely. No doubt in my mind it was. I live pretty much on the town line of Greenfield just a couple of miles down in the Greenfield. Well let me ask maybe Pat and Rick about this. Rick van de Poll: Well education is the real important thrust of of what all of us do as biologists and Game Managers and to make sure that a things like what Sam was saying that in spite of what you believe the mountain lions will not eat your children they will not steal your pets from your backyard and they will not necessarily be seen by you unless you're extremely lucky. Thank you. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction - YouTube But also I think it proves the opposite point which is that sometimes they're pretty secretive because all the way from Minnesota where the where was the first time was picked up on a game camera to New York. Pat humans people leave deer carcasses up in trees. So that that's more or less I think why I'm here and why I got into this in nineteen ninety nine I found a what appeared to be a print of a mountain lion and that was in the Osprey mountains and I thought well OK that's that's a print. Absolutely there are a lot of folks out there who for some reason need to create something that raises a stir and gets the attention of the media etc.. Part II. And they were using all the habitat. So now what's going on. Sam Evans-Brown: Pretty well I was going to say it is nice to hear about how to identify the facial markings but probably I'd being a to identify the tracks is probably the more useful useful tool that one can have in their tool box. The females disperse a shorter range and once they find a vacant home range they stay in that location and live there. That's too big for Bobcat. Peter Biello: Well Karl Jarvis a former reporter for The King's son Nile thank you very much for for calling in and sharing your perspective and to his point Patrick T. I mean yes we haven't met the scientific burden of proof here in New Hampshire as far as physical evidence is is concerned but is there room at Fish and Game For A kind of an informal nod to all of the people who have somehow convinced themselves and possibly some others that yeah there may be occasional sightings here. You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. Thanks very much. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. It was really muscular looking cat I mean is that like a side angle to me. Thank you very much for listening. It's listed as population of least concern. Patrick Tate: Yes. They're just moving around freely. Nicholas Handy can be reached at 924-7172 ext. And sometimes I've seen pictures of those where it's the question is What is that is that a bobcat. There's just one subspecies of North American mountain lion. I'm gonna send you a letter that we researched this report and we spoke with those labs and the lab wrote in their letter to us that they could only say that Scott contained white Tea Party fur and that they could not say what deposited the scout because it's far too degraded listeners we'd love to hear from you about your mountain lion sightings if you have seen one or if you if you think you have give us a call we'd love to hear your story 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Peter Biello: But clearly you know you're saying like hoaxes people who claim to have seen a mountain lion but knowingly have not or are appropriating photos taken elsewhere of legit mountain lion say out West where they people acknowledge that they exist certainly knowingly or unknowingly in this case the person who sent it to me said hey a friend of mine sent me this photo and said he took it on his back porch also. You know I think it's there's a lady Holly Ernst out in California who has done a lot of the genotyping of mountain lions in Northern California the ones that are of course most people have heard about taking down hikers bikers etc. Information online ad an age student loans dawg. However the scarring on the trees did not and the angles were off. In my New Hampshire career I have written several, and seen at least 20, stories along the lines of "local person thinks they saw a mountain lion but there's no actual evidence aside from. And a lot of people around the county airport have seen a lot of pilots coming in said they saw huge. nh.gov | privacy policy | accessibility policy If so that's for us as an agency. Peter Biello: We mentioned that the eastern cougar and the Western cougar are they were separate eastern cougar believed to be extinct. So. Every other Friday on Morning Edition NHPRs Sam Evans-Brown tracks down answers to questions about the environment and outdoors for our listeners in a segment we call Ask Sam.. Just. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof mountain lions live in the state, yet residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. I noticed it had a really big sweeping tail that kind of curled up behind it and all but still at that point because everyone says there's no mountain lions here. I've collected scat samples I've got several in my collection. The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. So hard to know hard to refute if there's no interest in making up a story which many people of course do then I would respond the same way as Pat did. We're gonna talk about sightings in this part of the program as well we'd love to hear your story. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. NH Fish and Game Wildlife Biologist Patrick Tate reports that so far, mountain lion reports accompanied byphotographs have been misidentified bobcats or housecats, or pictures of mountain lions taken from the Internet and reported as being recorded in New Hampshire. If youve got photo trap evidence of a Mountain Lion, send it in, and we'll send it along to the appropriate state or federal agency! So I just throwing that out there it's interesting. So so it is possible in Maine to still to to to have one but you have to be sort of professional handler as it were. Have it reported down in the Keene area. And there are thousands of mountain lions killed every year legally through hunting, and there have been untold tens of thousands of mountain lions killed by hunters over the last hundred years, says Mark Elbroch, the Puma Program Director for Panthera, a global wild cat conservation organization, So even the folks who live with mountain lions still have a fancy and see something thats not there to me thats incredible.. Yeah I did. Pat what do you think the mystique of the mountain lion. So I hate the idea that there's some sort of upward you know downward pressure from the bosses saying Don't you know don't tell about the mountain lions because it'll scare away the tourists. and territorial animals are much more inclined to create a problem with passer bys than dispersing animals in fact I'd be totally shocked if a dispersal would encounter with a human purposefully unless they had already had some type of training to do so. Can you tell us about that story. I don't know if she still is. Let us know your story and share your photos. The western mountain lion lives in a more of a grassland open area now so to blend in with a very lighted situation here in the Northeast we are very shadowy dark situation because of the forest and our cats wear a darker brownish reddish color than what they were and they were also smaller than what the western mountain lion is. I'm Peter B yellow. Well let's hear from from Sue Morse again science director for the organization keeping track. Mike thanks for your call. Me Im willing to believe its possible that there are some out there. They are the same thing. And so I just wanted to share my share my experience with you guys and it was pretty awesome to see if you get to see one albeit it was in the brush. Well they are the same. Fear for others and those two polarizing opinions on the situation is what I believe brings out mystique and Sam you know I take kind of a long view on this. So I did a bunch of research and all the documentation I found was there art are not any pieces of DNA of Eastern online. No I saw a camel. From: Boomerdog in OK 08-Oct-07 This is the exchange. There wasn't a distinct subspecies the North American mountain lion is all is all one species and then you can find a genetically distinct South American subspecies. And I can recall its information but I can't confirm or verify anything. M from Tree Hill author series presenting Diane lay back. Reports without physical evidence are not dismissed, however Fish and Game cannot verify a sighting report without physical evidence. Pelosi story here we go. And trying to figure out the little pieces to identify him so I bring up the names the differences but the appearances can be confusing for some. So we're fixated on natural but there's other possibilities. Which brings us to the next question, what are the odds that some of these reported sightings (which, when I posted about this on twitter, I immediately started to get as well) are actually people seeing a mountain lion? Don't miss your chance to win three two thousand dollar gas gift cards at any station of your choice not to mention the grand prize twenty five thousand dollars toward a new car. Peter Biello: So Rick seems like you agree that the tail is a big giveaway whether or not it's a mountain lion Absolutely. Patrick Tate: I've had hunters hang deer carcasses forbidding wildlife entries. Over a period of a year and a half, this Mountain Lion left DNA evidence in at least four states. So what I'm getting back is the verifying and confirming of evidence what that was not there. Really appreciate it. Mountain lions remain an enigmatic animal for residents of New Hampshire, with New Hampshire Fish and Game reporting three to five sightings per week. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. So Pat you field a lot of calls about people seeing or reportedly seeing mountain lions. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. We did a short segment about mountain lion sightings earlier this year and and after which I was sent a photo and also a video recording that was mostly just audio because it was so dark the photo just a quick reverse Google image search you can put images online and see where else where else they've been posted revealed that the photo had been taking out taken out in Wyoming and has been used you know hundreds of times to claim and the person who sent it to me said it had been taken New Hampshire. You saw what you saw. Right. Peter Biello: Worth mentioning if we're scaring anybody question a mysterious mountain lions lurking perhaps in someone's backyard. One was in Shelton. Peter Biello: This is the exchange on an HP yard today we're talking about the mysterious elusive majestic Mystic Mountain Lion. So I just brought up the bobcat thing because the location is fascinating to me that that that location we have Bobcats existing but that location we have a mountain lion report because it's a developed area and which brings me back to earlier what I had said it's a bouncing ball. Patrick Tate: It became a very interesting investigation over time because it started becoming. Reviewing the evidence, the U.S. Peter Biello: From New Hampshire Public Radio I'm Peter Biello in for Lark Knoy and this is the exchange. What kind of animal is that. So I think in that story there's there's something for the believers and the nonbelievers and I and you know Mark L. Brock is who is a gentleman with the cougar Network told me this story is evidence that that if they were here we would know about it. Sam what's the incentive for the government to deny allegedly. Patrick Tate: Same here in New Hampshire too. Second when I when they did forward it from Wyoming to to Michigan you know this was coming right from sample 18 and 19 had no remarkable differences from known mountain lions from Michigan or Wyoming. Rick van de Poll: Rick van de Poll so I was a non-believer as well. Love hearing these stories. And I think a lot of folks would like them to be around. Sam Evans-Brown: But I mean the video I had been sent was you know a recording of a animal growling but it was in slow motion and when I asked the person why is this in slow motion the denied that it was so there's a lot of weird stuff that happens in regards to people claiming they've seen they've seen these things. Fish and Game then deny the evidence. Administrative Links. We'll push great photos to the front page. It was not a bobcat. And Rick Van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. The trouble with accepting every reported sighting as a confirmed mountain lion is that there are so many mistaken identifications. They're the generalists that made it through both the arrival of the Clovis people with their with their spears and then the Europeans with their guns. So I know it's another unconfirmed report but you string enough of these together. m from a weed family Automotive on store Street in Concord is serving the Concord area families automotive needs since 1995. Peter Biello: What about the idea of tourism like us leaving aside the fact that it is not on the Endangered Species Act is it. Squam Lake: Home of mountain lions - Concord Monitor And so. Mountain Lions | Wildlife | New Hampshire Fish and Game Department The nonbelievers are going to say Show us your evidence and show us prove this to us. Peter Biello: They make great mascots at least. So. And those are not the same things.
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