Why are they having an open season on wolves? We had rancher friends who lost an entire 2nd cutting of hay to deer. Christmas has gotten to be too much commercialization and people go WAY into debt to please the materialistic children they are raising. be warned, were bringing the fight to you and in fact, some of us well even fight you right in the middle of the field. We rely on loyal members like you to sustain our reporting and grow the WyoFile community. Healthily managed , wildlife are an irreplaceable part of our nation and frankly should take precedence over somebodys making a buck on a cow. The end result is a major shift in elk from the forest onto ranch and farm lands. For a cattle rancher, coexisting with an abundance of elk isnt easy. Want to join the discussion? Not nature. About. * No personal attacks, profanity, discriminatory language or threats. This doesnt stop to consider CWD which is spreading because of artificially inflated populations of elk and other deer for hunters. This is a privilege for me. 4) wildlife has no where else to go other then the lush private ground, which was allowed to rest and recover while the rancher abused the public land Take away the welfare animal damage checks take away the cheap $1.35 per month per cow grazing fee open up, once and for all the landlocked public land that the welfare ranchers have been exclusively using for pennies to the acre hand out more general licenses eliminate the outfitters in this state who get to play with free inventory supplied by the game and fish. Nominee for Best Historical Fiction (2019) In the aftermath of war, the hunter becomes the hunted. Part of the problem lies in the access no program. If you dont like elk on your property allow hunting. 303-688-9412 or keith@theelkranch.com. Its not cheap, he said. Cabelas Hunting Supplies & Equipment, 2023 Wagonhound Outfitters. I have found all of the reading most interesting its been an education for me being from Taylors South Carolina and now a young 63 year-old I dont know if I would ever have the chance to hunt such a magnificent animal as the elk they are huge and majestic looking and to see them in a herd as described in this article its just hard for me to imagine but I would love the opportunity to work the fence line repairing helping for just food and stay Iam sure that I could find way to the job site to work I do have a hemi power dodge ram truck that Im sure would make the trip but enough Smalltalk protecting the elk and the Elks habitat and ranchers land would be number one there are many ways that yall could benefit by having me on the team The list is too long to mention all of them. Indepth News about Wyoming People, Places & Policy. Elk herds bounce on and off Bonanders property, but he agreed with the assessment that his land also provides them a place of sanctuary. Its getting worse and worse, Grant said. Instead they contract with a outfitter and cherry pics a few animals off their land for a big payout to the rancher. The Solitude Ranch has a reputation of sending hunters home with a Pope & Young caliber Whitetail deer or Mule deer. Thread starter backsmasher23; Start date Jul 14, 2015; Jul 14, 2015 #1 B. backsmasher23 Member. WHAT IVE SEE WHILE HUNTING WYO 10YRS OFF AND ON IS THAT YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH MANY AREAS TO GET THE CERTAIN MARKED HUNTING AREAS YET TO GET THERE YOU MUST PASS THROUGH MANY PRIVATE OWNED LANDS WHERE YOU CAN SEE AN ABUNDANCE OF DEER & ELK IN THE FIELDS SOMETIMES AMONG THE CATTLE THAT YOU WONT SEE IN WILD GAMES LOCATIONS. One of the most exhilarating experiences as a hunter is one of our September archery elk hunts and has become a sought after hunt for many television hunting celebrities. I think there is a simple fix. . 2023 Hunting Information . Trout Creek Ranch. And now, here they are, on Wyo File, whining. The Martin's Cove: Mormon Trail Site includes a visitors' center with artwork, artifacts, and exhibits about the . were fed up with you trying to block legal access to public land. Nevertheless, the Laramie Mountains remain renowned for producing trophy-class bull elk. This system is working very well and the public is paying to feed the publicly owned horses. Good luck. People killed off all the predators that should be there and wants you the same now. In short the newer methods and products for hunting has and is training the animals to group more often and easier. 5) rancher cries about all the elk yet, when the neighbor kid asks for permission to hunt, nope is all they get Not possible??? It doesnt take a rocket science to know that the cattle up on the range and in the mountains have pushed the elk onto the private lands. A Wyoming District court ruling in Washakie County held the State of Wyoming responsible for damages to private land and livestock by wildlife OWNED BY THE STATE OF WYOMING. We manage our herd by offering management hunts to continually improve genetics resulting in wide, deep-forked mule deer and whitetail deer bucks. Right now the elk harbor on the private lands to avoid hunting pressure. Then the elk are fed during winter, again preventing natural attrition, and putting elk in close proximity in a small area. ON Wyomings winter elk feed grounds, Game and Fish revenue funds are used to feed the elk meaning the nearby private landowners are not burdened with the cost of feeding them usually on their bottom land fields. You people are sick. But interwoven are traditional cattle ranches, mega ranches sprawling out over as many as hundreds of thousands of acres and properties that are bought and held mostly so they can be hunted for a couple weeks a year. You created your own problem. The antelope hunts are from blinds on water holes, set up for shots of 20 yards or less. If the number of trophy hunters was severely limited, and nature was allowed to take its course, this problem would resolve naturally. But sportspeople agree that there are problems. Ate a jogging teacher in Alaska. Like many people have said allow access to the public lands. Lets Hunt Some Turkey. 2019 Price list for big game hunts in Wyoming, Colorado and Iowa. Theres not an easy answer to this issue; however, nothing productive comes from insults without providing a solid idea on how to solve the problem. This applies to ungulates as well as predators. Many of the hunts were free of charge, especially for the non-trophies, McCarty said. The date is old the wolves already desecrated the elk populations. If youre going to close off hunting to everyone except those guided by outfitters then stfu about the elk on your land. Wagonhound Outfitting consists of 300,000 acres in the famous elk area 7. At todays prices many families could use the resource feeding there families. WE OFFER 6 SPECIES TO HUNT HERE AT THE CROSS C RANCH. Sisco D Ranch offers a hunt guarantee, assuring that this will be the hunt of a lifetime. Make up your mind, do you want to eat? When given the opportunity, predators such as wolves will depredate on their natural game and leave livestock alone. They cant have it both ways. These same whiners are more than happy to cash their damage checks though. This is not a small pasture meat hunt. Prices vary depending upon the hunt, ranch, and weapon choice. VIETNAM VETERAN U.S. ARMY RETD PROUD AMERICAN PATRIOT. The late season hunt in unit 61 has plenty of public land outside the wilderness to hunt. Our location in central Wyoming gives us access to some of the best hunting in the state. More land is accessible to the elk with few trees, more forage. Starting immediately, ban outfitting and no more wildlife deprivation checks. (Wyoming Game and Fish Department/Courtesy). Im not any happier about this than they are, however this is what happens:/. Grey wolves will follow the food mostly on private ranches where oh by the way slow domestic cattle also reside which prey do you think the wolf will attack? While on a hunt with us you will be with an experienced professional guide who will work to make your Wyoming hunt one that will not be surpassed by any other. Antelope rifle hunts have been 100% success. The Elk, having no where to go, head to the private property and end up being called terrorists by Outfitter Sy Gilliland. Fix the cattle situation first, then get back to us and well figure the elk thing out. There were hundreds and hundreds of people coming in and out, and they did it dang near every day, McCarty said. Its a tough area to draw a tag in. Bull Elk: 6-day hunt - $7,500 Bull Buck Combo: 6-day hunt - $9,000 Cow Elk: 4-day hunt- $3,500 Deer: 4 day hunt - $4,500 Combo: 4 day hunt - $5,500 (2 cow elk; 1 cow elk/1 deer) The Park Service killed thousands of starving elk with paid riflemen and literally bulldozed the carcasses into mass graves. All hunting and fishing activities at The Ranch at UCross require a Wyoming license and the assistance of our on-site registered outfitter. State task force is exploring alternative ways of issuing hunting licenses to increase pressure and dislodge animals from ranchland refuges. You would find flocks of 30-50 here and there especially around Garrett. I am hopeful the recent ruling which found two out-of-state hunters not guilty of trespassing on private land eases some of the problems everyone faces accessing PUBLIC land in the insane checkerboard patterns set forth by the back-in-Washington Feds before this land was even settled. Some sickness comes along. Units 56, 58, and 59 all are considered late season trophy hunts. 82006-0001. Hunting with ATV,s is a large part of the training, along with the constant pressure of filming wildlife for all of the hunting programs. theres a new sheriff in town and youll be seeing more of us. You must subscribe to the old notion that the rancher owes nothing, yet is owed everything, Pretty simple. The ranchers/land owners complain about the elk, but they lease the land to outfitters and deny hunting to everyone else, or if they do allow hunting its only for cows since the outfitters guide for bulls. Take care of our own first. Its always about money but private land owners have rights to. About 100 a year get permission from the family, he said, and another 225 or so have access to certain parts of the ranch through a state-administered hunting management program. Too bad natural predators like wolves arent around.that might lower the number of elk. It doesnt make sense. One elk may feed a family for 6 months or so. The majority of our outfitting revenue is driven by non-resident hunters, McCarty said. I will say, I know a guy from Wisconsin who hunts the Area 7, and he says that the wolves back there have really thrown deer numbers down to the point where they are struggling to keep their numbers up, so I dont think wolves are the answer, it would be even harder to manage the wolf population than elk in my opinion.